Last month,
Bruce Reyes-Chow received a note from a seminarian with a few questions about pastoral leadership. On April 13 he shared his responses on his blog. He invited other pastors to take the challenge of answering the same questions. I, too, took the opportunity to reflect on my own ministry by answering the nine questions. I enjoyed the time of reflection and hope you find my answers helpful.
1. Tell me about your conversion experience/faith journey. Jesus said we must be born again or born from above, or born anew. (John 3) A long time ago I heard someone say, "I've been born again, again and again." I like that: we are being born anew each day if we are paying attention to God, and to everyone and everything around us. My parents, grandparents, aunts and uncles were all people of faith when I was a child. I am grateful to God that I have always known the Biblical stories of faith, hope and love. My Mom is a retired nurse and my Dad an electrical lineman, and my grandparents were clergy in The Salvation Army, the community of faith that nurtured me. When I was 27 years old, I was baptized in a Presbyterian Church on the same day my infant son, our eldest son, Patrick was baptized. The Salvation Army, like Quakers, doesn't baptize. My sister, brother and I were dedicated to God as infants, rather than baptized. My wife, Robin, and I have been married 29 years and she along with my two sons are my closest companions on this journey of faith.
2. Why did you go into ministry? There are so many different ways I could answer that. When I think back to my years in college-- I was a Biblical studies major-- I was simply intrigued by the story of God in Jesus Christ calling us to follow him. I loved studying the stories of the Bible and preparing myself to be a teacher of the Bible in whatever form that might take. By the time I was under care of the Presbytery of Chicago I think that being a part of a community of faith working for the transformation of society was very important to me. I felt called to be a part of the church working for peace and justice and living in a community that had Christ at the Center (as Dietrich Bonhoeffer writes about in Life Together.)
3. What do you love the most about being in ministry? I love the variety of the work schedule: I am a preacher, teacher, pastor, leader, community organizer, writer, administrator, and any number of other roles a pastor plays. During any given week I am with many amazing people and friends working together in faith, hope and love.
4. What is the most challenging thing about being in ministry? I naturally like to have goals and celebrate accomplishments. But ministry, and maybe life today, isn't really about fulfilling goals and accomplishing things. It's about faith, hope and love. Being faithful in ministry is often difficult to measure. Therefore, one of the most challenging things about being in ministry is knowing if what you're doing is really worthwhile. Sometimes I just get bogged down in the details and that can be discouraging. The most important thing a pastor or religious leader does is responding to the unexpected opportunities of ministry that he or she could never have predicted. I want to be ready for those unexpected opportunities. I remember hearing an actor on Inside the Actor's Studio talk about working with Jack Nicholson. He said Jack was so unpredictable. He said Jack had a way of taking a surprise, while making the movie, and turning that surprise into the most unbelievable moment in the movie. He said that's what makes Jack a great talent: taking the unexpected and going to another level. It may seem strange to compare ministry to making a move, but I think a good leader-- a good pastor-- is dealing with what's right in front of you and not what you think "should" be happening.
5. What are the most important things to keep in mind while ministering to people? I think it is important for me to keep in mind that I am a part of a community of faith. I don't minister as a lone individual. I don't have to have all the answers and it gives me great confidence as a leader to know that I am a part of a community of faith created and sustained by God.
6. How do you deal with the stresses of ministry and leadership? I love exercise. So I enjoy taking time 4 or 5 times a week to take an hour in the fitness room. I also enjoy music so I listen to music while I exercise. I also take more and more time to pray. Most mornings I take an hour to read scripture and pray. I think of these times of exercise and prayer as being similar to the airline announcement for parents to put on their oxygen masks first in order to help their children. I don't mean to suggest that I think of brothers and sisters in the faith community as my children, but I do think that it is important to be as rested and well as one can be in order to respond to the many crises that present themselves in the life of the congregation. This seems to be controversial for some reason. I remember being about one year out of seminary and being invited back to a CPE class to address just this question. I said to that group that I put my day off--away from the demands of ministry-- as a top priority and taking caring of myself as another top priority. Many of the seminary students told me I sounded selfish. I don't know how I would have survived all these years in parish ministry without these kinds of priorities. I also take all of my vacation and study leave time every year. I love being a pastor, but I need my rest and recreation too.
7. How would you define your leadership style? I enjoy leadership. I like working with people to accomplish the things God has called us to do and be. If we are on a journey of faith, we face decisions along the path and leaders help the group discern God's will in order that we can be faithful. I think being bold and generous is key to being a leader. The Sunday after Easter I preached a sermon on Acts 4. I found that Will Willimon wrote that Easter makes possible "true generosity and bold living." Leadership is about being bold and generous.
8. How would you define your leadership techniques? I prefer the words practices and skills. There are certain practices that we need to learn and refine as leaders. Artists, athletes, and most professions require a set of skills in order to be an artist, an athlete or doctor. Leadership in the church is no different. We need to build on the education we received before ordination and continue to sharpen the tools of ministry. The ability to deal with our own anxiety and fears is, also, key.
9. What are the things people do that make you feel most supported and loved as a pastor? I have been blessed in this way. Many people over the years have prayed for me, encouraged me and found ways to say, "Thank you." This may seem so basic and simple but just a few Sundays ago, as I was walking into the sanctuary as a guest preacher in a friend's church, an usher turned to me and said, "I'll be praying for you." That meant so much to me. I felt supported and cared for as a leader. Although all eyes were on me during the sermon, I didn't feel like a lone ranger. The sermon wasn't about me, rather a community of faith was seeking God's Word on that particular Lord' Day. When ministry is among people who feel that way about the tasks of ministry, like preaching, and prayerfully participate together in ministry, I feel loved and supported.